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Project Title: Look
at Me When I’m Talking to You
Recipient Organization: Horace
Mann Academic Middle School
Fiscal Sponsor: Friends of Photography
Lead Artist: Patrick Hebert
Genre and Date Awarded: Visual Arts, May 1996
Completed: May 1998
Photographer Patrick “Pato” Herbert collaborated with
members of the school community at Horace Mann
Academic Middle School in San Francisco to create a series of 14 photographic murals. The
murals presented color panoramic photographs of students. One large
(eight by eighteen foot piece) was placed on the school’s exterior
facing Valencia Street, and the others were placed on interior walls.
For five years prior to undertaking this project, Patrick Hebert
had been teaching photography at Horace Mann Academic Middle School
as a paraprofessional and as an artist-in-residence, supported by
the California Arts Council. While working at the school, he also
had been making pictures during his lunch hour of the young people
he taught. At the end of the school year, in 1994, he had exhibited
a selection of his images throughout the school hallways. The exhibition
was short-termed, but generated overwhelming support and enthusiasm
from the school community: Two years later many students still were
carrying contact prints in their wallets. This response led him to
undertake a larger scale, permanent project.
New to Hebert in this collaboration were the medium of murals and
the use of a medium format panoramic camera. He noted: “The
wide angled and expansive space of the panoramic format enables multiple
narratives to occur simultaneously within a single frame. Intimate
portraiture can co-exist with the less conventional ghost like motion
recorded by the panoramic camera’s moving lens.”
He also sought to address the dearth of stimulating and complex
public imagery of youth, particularly young people of color, noting, “Except
when targeted as a consumer group, youth rarely make it into the
public visual space…even the public service announcements
on billboards and bus shelters seem to be aimed at young
people, not created in collaboration with them.”
Hebert’s process for his Creative Work Fund project involved
multiple layers of interaction with the school community. As he took
photographs, he distributed wallet-sized contact prints to students
on a weekly basis, enabling them to collect and judge the imagery
throughout the process. Simultaneously, he met quarterly with the
school’s governing body, the Horace Mann Community Council,
and monthly with a team of five teachers, and two different student
advisory teams consisting of eighth graders. He also convened a selection
committee comprising students, school staff, and parents, who helped
to direct, edit, and mount the images. The preliminary round of edits
were shared with the community in the fall of 1997, and the final
fourteen images were formally unveiled in May 1998.
Horace Mann is a public middle school in San Francisco’s Mission
District. While the Mission is primarily Latino, it is a racially
and culturally diverse part of the city and this diversity is reflected
in the 630 students attending Horace Mann. The school offers its
students a range of club and extra curricular activities and is involved
with numerous community organizations. The school also fills multiple
roles as a public building: as part of City College of San Francisco’s
Mission branch (with 400 adult students attending nightly), as an
official polling site for elections, and as a meeting place frequently
used by church and community groups. At the project’s outset,
the school’s principal wrote, “Recently renovated and
repainted, Horace Mann has a fresh but expressionless face. The proposed
murals will help the school establish an unique visual identity.”

Patrick “Pato” Hebert

Professional Experience
- Associate
Director of Education, Prevention, AIDS Project Los Angeles.
Help to create HIV Prevention programs, publications and social
marketing campaigns. (2002-Present)
- Visiting
Assistant Professor in Photography, Scripps College. (2001-02)
- Art
Director, No Haters Here. Helped to develop and implement a hate
crime media campaign for youth, sponsored by the Los Angeles
Commission on Human Relations. (2000-02)
- Artist-in-Residence,
California Arts Council, sponsored by the Ansel Adams Center
for Photography. Design and instruct a free after-school photography
program for students at Horace Mann Academic Middle School (1994-96)
- Bilingual
Paraprofessional, Horace Mann Academic Middle School, San Francisco
Unified School District (1993-96)
- Photographer,
Artist, Graphic Consultant, Proyecto ContraSIDA Por Vida, National
Task Force on AIDS Prevention, based in the queer Latino community
(1994-97)
Solo Exhibitions
- “revertido,” Voz
Alta, San Diego, CA. (2003)
- “somoson,” Galería
de la Raza, San Francisco, CA. (2003)
- “Mariposas,” Art
Gallery, University of California Irvine, Irvine, CA. (1999)
- “Untitled Images from
the Horace Mann Series,” Horace Mann Middle School, San
Francisco, California (1994)
Group Exhibitions
- “The Labyrinth of Light,” Centro
Nacional de las Artes, Mexico City, Mexico. (2003)
- “Photo Salon,” Queer
Cultural Center, San Francisco, CA. (2003)
- “Finding Family Stories,” CA
African American Museum, Los Angeles, CA. (2003)
- “Finding Family Stories,” Self-Help
Graphics, Los Angeles, CA. (2003)
- “Finding Family Stories,” Japanese
American National Museum, LA, CA. (2003)
- “Faculty Show,” Scripps
College, Claremont, CA. (2002)
- “Tierra Incognita,” Plaza
de la Raza, Los Angeles, CA. (2002)
- “Gender, Geneaology,
and Counter Memory,” MACLA, San Jose, CA. (2001)
- “America Foto Latina,” Museo
de Las Artes, Guadalajara, Jalisco, México. (2000)
Awards
- Rockefeller
Humanities Residency Fellowship, California State University,
Los Angeles (2005)
- Artist
Resource for Completion Award, Durfee Foundation (2003)
- Arts
Education Fellowship, National Endowment for the Arts and the
Council for Basic Education (1996)
- Individual Artist’s Residency, California
Arts Council, Artist Serving Special Constituents Award (1994-97)

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